@chr @DialMforMara @anthracite I heard book 4 was actually not supposed to happen, and the events were just going to be mentioned by characters in what became book 5, and then Martin couldn't get that to work so book 4 came into existence and is essentailly backfill to support book 5. I don't know how true it is, but it's an interesting potential reason for why nothing happens in 4.

(Not making excuses for book 4's lack of plot, just think it's interesting.)

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@hummingrain @chr@cybre.space @DialMforMara @anthracite I think book 4 is when I gave up, personally, though I may have stuck through to book 5. after that it was just "oh... more of those? *checks wrist for nonexistent watch* nope, still don't care"

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