okay so OptiFine is _finally_ out for 1.13... but how the hell do I use it when Forge isn't out for 1.13 yet

@sc I remember the old days when you installed mods by editing minecraft.jar

@Siphonay Christ

@sc I did that so many times on the beta 1.8.1

@Siphonay earliest i remember fucking around with mods was with MCPatcher (remember that???)

@sc uuuh was it a tool to automatically install mods?

Also

MinecraftSP.exe before I bought the game

@Siphonay the heck is minecraftSP

@sc a launcher that downloads and launch Minecrafts without needing to buy it or login

@Siphonay oh! so like Mineshafter https://mineshafter.info/

@sc mmm sorta? Not sure. There were no alternate servers you couldn't have a skin or connect to servers that required you to be logged on to your mojang account

@Siphonay oh okay i see

so it's like playing cracked gmod where you can't join any VAC servers