@shaderphantom How is it unnecessary and dangerous to go after someone for hosting nazis? We blast twitter and youtube for hosting nazis, how is this any different?

@policeinchains because YouTube and Twitter are corporations, not individual people

@shaderphantom This doesn't make sense. Action is the same.

@policeinchains and neither is Fedilab actively hosting nazis

@shaderphantom When a person becomes conscious of a passive action that can be stopped, it turns into an active one.

@shaderphantom Hold your breath, for example.

@policeinchains you seem to think I don't want Fedilab to reverse their decision and have conflated that with my disapproval of dogpiling and harassment for someone's decision

@policeinchains and to be really abundantly clear that is a form of policing largely in the hands of people with social capital. It's a capitalist's game.

@shaderphantom No it's not. I have no social capital and i am doing the policing here and know by moral judgements.

@policeinchains this just reads to me as "it's okay for me to police and harass people [I don't know] because I'm not popular enough for it to spread" and that is frankly an unacceptable stance to me if you really do consider yourself an anarchist

@shaderphantom Why exactly? People in positions where they can make important decisions effecting everyone, and then making bad decisions need to be policed and harrassed if necessary. Anarchy is each person having control of her life, majority forcing minority with power over them to bow down is the process by which anarchy can be established. We are anarchists, we don't live in anarchy. Pretending we are all equals today is not part of the package. And i brought up that i have no social capital because i don't care about interpersonal drama. I just made a judgement.

@shaderphantom i don't support harrassement, but dogpiling people into changin their decisions about hosting fascists is reasonable enough. My stance would be different if, let's say, a person is in denial about nature of his or her friend's political affiliation. People who are conscious of their decisions are responsible as well.

@brainblasted trivially harder. It's trivial for any user of Gab to fork an open source project and tell everyone else on Gab to use it instead, even if the upstream project blocked the domain. It's like a one line change and signing up for Play Store distribution and then every fascist developer there can help otherwise stay in sync with upstream.

Then Fedilab runs the risk of being overtaken in popularity by the fork.

@brainblasted the efforts of a single user can greatly benefit the entire network. It applies for non-fascist uses as much as it does for fascists. Not all of them have to know software development to take advantage of their commons.

@shaderphantom For one, if Google knows that the app is being used to circumvent the Gab ban it may be denied from app store distribution. Which means they need to use less-known distribution channels.

There is no excuse for enabling fascists once you know there are fascists.

@brainblasted you might find it surprising that I agree that I would have preferred the block added even if it does nothing practical.

But cancelling the developer of the app for not doing so is grossly unacceptable policing behavior given how little it would actually do.

This is performative more than anything else.

@shaderphantom I don’t know about cancelling, but we are allowed to disagree with them and voice our disagreement publicly.

@brainblasted which creates the practical effect of a callout, even if it's just "public disapproval", because this is an individual maintainer we're talking about, not a corporation.

@shaderphantom you may disagree with me on this, but calling out people for enabling fascism is perfectly valid. This shit is life and death for some of us, so it’s in our best interest to not let it spread.

@brainblasted well, I guess a whole lot of clout farming leftists currently on this platform need to be pointed out for regularly engaging in harassment campaigns against innocent people aided by the very fascists we're talking about preventing, but don't mind me...