@bleak yeah i hate this so much. dealing with bsd instead of linux, though, there is at least much better documentation of what and how and why. still the same damn headaches about approaching anyone when troubleshooting but i've found there it helps to do super specific searches and pretend to be an archaeologist than a person trying to reach out to knowledgeable folks alive in our time because they are in fact mostly assholes about being stirred.
@spinach @bleak killallnerds.sh