music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

You know... I used to be the kid who would "listen to anything that wasn't rap or country".

I deeply enjoy stuff that falls into both of those, hell, I did back then too. We all grow and change.

But like.

"Rap isn't singing" because it doesn't display pitch control like operatic singing???? That's like, if not directly racist, buying into some really racist opinions yeah?

This person is wrong, and like, they're supposedly getting better about... being not republican anymore. But oof. Just... oof. Not the first really racist/queerphobic thing he's said too :/

music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@Draekos well, rap is not singing, fair, rap is rapping, a different form of music with it's own history and values, a very valid form of vocal music that's technically not singing, perhaps, but rap songs are song as much as instrumental songs are songs

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re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@efi But like... that makes it singing.

re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@Draekos not for the first one, as rap has no "musical modulation", and for the second one, that'd separate improv from recorded, which feels even worse
at any rate, debating this is the first mistake, because holy shit nobody cares, it's music, you listen to it, it good, don't be a dick about what is or is not a song piece of shit white jerkasses rawr

re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@efi @Draekos
Rap does have modulation, it's just characteristically a flat modulation, except when it's not. But that's a stylistic choice. Rap is in the grey zone of discussion in theory, but because of the roots of its performance and the politics of the division between 'singing' and 'vocalization' I tend to favor breaking down the arbitrary delineation.

re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@Irick @Draekos it's such a moot point, like who's gonna separate rap from the rest of music except people who want it to be inherently bad due to racism?

re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@efi @Draekos
People who don't understand the root of the discussion due to the normalization of the distinction and the socially coded hierarchies of worth. The unexamined life is the life most people live, and so systemic discrimination repeats through lazy defaulting.

re: music, and someone being wrong (and racist?) 

@Irick @Draekos u coulda said "racists" =P

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