"lesbian" and current queer culture (asking about)
So up front, I'm not against they/them lesbians. I have some light hesitance about he/him lesbians.
Anyone mind explaining the thinking behind the expansion of 'lesbian' to cover more than she/her-she/her relationships?
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"lesbian" and current queer culture (asking about)
@Draekos caveats: I'm not a lesbian (though that is partly because I have partners who would feel misgendered by me identifying as such so it's one of those "I refuse to think about it too hard" things as much as anything) but I have some stuff I've learned and listened to and would like to try to answer at least some of this
"lesbian" and current queer culture (asking about)
@Draekos so it's a complex issue with a lot of facets
1) pronouns aren't the same as gender. Someone can use any pronouns and still be a girl if they're a girl. Historically, it wasn't uncommon for butch lesbians to use he/him pronouns, go by "Daddy" and the like. One could argue that all of them were trans men that didn't have language for it but that would be presumptive and start making the discussion pretty circular
re: "lesbian" and current queer culture (asking about)
@AzureHusky ohshit, I completely didn't think about that sort of angle. No that makes a lot of sense!
Guess I just have some hesitance from history of cishet dudes saying shit like "I'm a lesbian in a dude's body" in a completely non-trans intention :/
re: "lesbian" and current queer culture (asking about)
@Draekos Yeah absolutely there are some cis men who are gross and talk about things in bad faith and that is one way it happens. I also wonder how many of those guys might actually be trying to signal gender feelings that they don't know how to discuss too, I dunno. But i don't think doing gatekeeping would stop the shitty ones either way