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@spiderrobotpig@witches.town There's a lot in common between chaos magic and shamanism in general, so it's no surprise that Phil Hine is writing about it. It's like... remember what I said about it all going back to animism plus trance states? Chaos magic is basically rooted in just focussing on the 'trance states' part of that (gnosis, etc).
@spiderrobotpig@witches.town This is why I have some sympathy for at least DISCUSSION of practices from cultures that are not my own, they tend to have worldviews that are more compatible with mine in that regard.
@spiderrobotpig@witches.town The reason that doesn't work for me is that I ended up with the animism stuff, the spirit-world experiences for lack of a better term, before I ran into any of the rest, so hearing Chaos Magic treat it all like it's psychological effects or constructed servitors feels pretty bad to me ALSO.