Little Blep Pupper @ulvra@awoo.space

You could say that rather than being just a result of itself, happiness is in fact a function of multiple functions, with varying requirements, thus happiness might very well be a result of satisfaction along with other factors.

This for instance begs the question of "what is happiness?", because you could define it as fulfilling such a function to the fullest, however happiness has so many complex factors included in its creation & sometimes require more or less to be achieved too, thus it changes, so perhaps "satisfaction" would be a better term for what would fit an AI...?

By that definition, emotion is in no way a thing exclusive to us. We already know it's bogus when people claim animals don't feel anything, but we now postulate that in order for an AI to function, emotion is a necessary consequence of that process.

Now these emotions might be different to ours, but that does not make them less, they're simple made up in a different way.

Now here we made a short pitstop, talking about insanity effects in video games, as well as their implementation & thus effect on immersion, but then we moved on to emotions & AI, because what is emotion...?

Emotion is essentially a reward for fulfillment of a certain function, thus you can say that emotion itself is very much needed as the feedback in order to make a reward function... function. This goes for us, for animals as well as for AI.

Now it might not be true that all vegetarians are hostile, but that does not change the fact that it's true to this person.

So essentially what is truth? We have the global truth, which can be hard to define bue is the true truth & then we have the personal truth, which may be flawed, because it is unbendable unless the person in question accepts their truth being altered. If they won't listen, it won't ever be changed.

"Damn you personal truth...!"

Now pairing evolution with "intelligent" immediately gets the keyboard warriors out of their chairs, because they immediately assume you're talking about the religious "intelligent design" pseudo-science thing. This is cultural assumptions.

Similar to this is vegetarianism, where telling someone you're vegetarian immediately puts them on the defensive, because they automatically assume that you're one of these hostile ones bashing others over the head with it.

Waffles! ^-^ ❤️

That then brought us on to evolution. Many regard evolution as a random process, but while driven by randomised factors, evolution itself is an intelligent process as, much akin to domestication & similar to that you also see the same, namely unintended changes, or changes which happens outside the desired goal of the process. Essentially the process might have optimized for one aspect, but get another couple more along in the baggage along the way.

So what excatly *is* sentience...? Moo brought up the usual definition, namely that of agency, but I argued that rather sentience is a matter of purpose, that sentience is the state of having a purpose, but to conciously decide to alter that purpose to something different.

This then begs the question, where do we draw the line...? Is sentience binary? No not really, but rather it's a gradient & someone can be more or less sentient.

A sentient is a machine which chose to be something different, while a cephalon is like a sentient rid of things deemed unneeded & leashed to a set purpose. So how could Hunhow use Suda to shield sentients in the void?

We think that it is not so much that they are different, but rather that Hunhow used her as a reference point in regular space, to map the difference in the physical rules. It's not perfect & they still deteriorate, but it's better than nothing.

First we started discussing what exactly "the void" is, arguing that the closest approximation is likely to be the area just past the event horizonth of a black hole where regular physical laws no longer work, which might also explain why sentients do not function there.

This however begs the question of what AI & sentience is, as well as what makes the difference between a sentient & a cephalon.

On that note, what happens when you play Sanctuary Onslaught with a @maxinered & you're both a little weird...? Let me take you for a trip...
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It's been 150 days, not of constant farming mind you, though I wish I knew how many runs we've done ^-^;; but we're finally here. ❤️
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Damn you personal truth...! *Shakes paw* >:c

@thingywott Aye, that's very true. I think you're right in that the whole question about accountability definitely is a big influence there.

I've also experienced in the past a (for lack of a better word) "fear" of entering into sexual things with a friend whom I haven't been involved with such before, even if there's mutual interest, for fear that it'll somehow damage the friendship to do so.

It's not fully relatable, but there's definitely some of that there still.

So how does it make sense, to have your kinks out for public view, but at the same time being too awkward to just talk about them...? I don't know, maybe it's just me that's weird...

It's also not that they know, but rather the act of telling. If they find out elsewhere, from art, deduction or a list & then come & ask about it then I have no issue talking about it... I can't say it makes much sense. I can usually sling a few out myself, but then I quickly close up & stop.

Still, it's easier to speak to a stranger than it is to a friend too & how does that make sense...? The latter should be the one you trust more.

Many have those kink list things & back in the day I made one too, simply because it's less awkward to simply point & let them read & ask than it is to manually iron everything out every time, an awkwardness that's multiplied with friends.

Still, it's also weird to have your kinks out there for public view just like that somehow.

Kinks are an odd thing, how you can be simultaneously not embarrased by having one, but embarrassed that others know.

I find it easy to talk about kinks that you're definitely not into, but when it comes to things you like, especially weirder things, then it gets harder, particularly when it's with a friend whom you never really had anything sexual with before.

It's a catch 22, wanting to talk about something that excites you, but at the same time being too embarrassed to.