@Felthry if I recall correctly, they used to be sponsored by soap companies.
@Austin_Dern @Vyzie still curious what they have to do with opera
@Austin_Dern @Vyzie Never heard that before. What do those have to do with opera?
@Felthry @Vyzie Huh. Apparently 'horse opera' was coined by William S Hart, who starred in like every western from 1915 to 1930. Possibly he was being droll about the genre.
Also apparently there were at least some 19th-century people who used 'horse opera' as a fanciful term for a circus performance. That doesn't seem like too great a reach for me.
@Austin_Dern @Vyzie I wonder if the term space opera came from that?
@Felthry @Vyzie Likely an influence, yeah.
Hart seems to mean by 'horse opera' the sort of cliche Western with stock plots and routine characters and, mm. There is a lot of great space opera out there but there is also a lot of Plucky Young Man, With Daring Girl And Her Scientist Father, blowing up the aliens who're blowing up the universe, out there.
@Felthry @Vyzie I don't know, although I'd suspect an influence from the 'horse opera' term used to describe westerns in the silent movie days.