people being weird about inclusivity
we just saw someone make the argument on the internet that inclusive language (someone was talking about alternatives to "ladies and gentlemen" that would include nonbinary people) is inherently exclusive because it excludes right-wing people, somehow????
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re: people being weird about inclusivity
@packbat yeah it's definitely not a good argument, i was just confused by how... ridiculous it was
particularly because that isn't even the case, since they were looking for a phrase that would include everyone regardless of gender and without even mentioning ... i want to say political affiliation but honestly i think calling it political is more than it deserves
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speculation re: people being weird about inclusivity
@Felthry I think bigots really like to take the logic of social justice and try to use it to justify supporting their bigotry?
part of why it keeps happening, I think, is because people keep treating it as a legitimate argument and not pure bullshit - and hey, sometimes that means the thing they hate can't happen
which is what they want, after all - they don't really care about the principle
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people being weird about inclusivity
@Felthry tolerance paradox, etcetera
people being weird about inclusivity
@Felthry I mean... is excluding right-wng people really a bad thing?
re: people being weird about inclusivity
@not_on_pizza I don't think so!
but the argument is particularly weird when you realize that.... it's not exclusive of right-wing people? like presumably "ladies and gentlemen and everyone else" or whatever alternative you'd come up with to use would still include everyone regardless of affiliation
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re: people being weird about inclusivity
@Felthry ...that is ... blatantly unjust? "your tolerance is intolerant of my intolerance" is straight-up bullshit - they're not saying it because they believe it, they're saying it because they want to stop nonbinary people from being accepted
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