@niss @artemis@vulpine.club oh you got it first. it'd be a ɹ, not a r, though, for English. English doesn't have /r/
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@Felthry @artemis tbh i spell it with /r/ because the english r is so weird (mine is like ɹ‿ʋˠ or something), it varies a lot, and there's only one of them, so "r" can't be confused for something else

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@niss @artemis@vulpine.club there isn't only one in some english dialects; many have /ɾ/ as well (as in dialectal butter /bʌɾɚ/ for instance)
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@Felthry @artemis tbh i'd consider that a phonetic matter with the phonemic representation still being /bʌtɚ/ (or /bʌtər/, or /bʌtəɹ/, or whatever someone's chosen notation for other stuff is). idk

(sorry arty)

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@niss @artemis@vulpine.club that might be something you'd only represent in narrow transcription, yeah

unless you're specifically talking about that sound itself and the differences between realizations as /bʌtɚ/, /bʌdɚ/ and /bʌɾɚ/, in which case you would use it in broad transcription too because i don't want to have to figure out exactly how aspirated the /b/ should be or how raised the /ʌ/ is to make narrow transcription valid
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