Border collies are easily the best dog hands down no contest, but please never own one.

@Fuego
What if, and I'm just spitballing here... you owned one that used to be a friend that you tfed into a border collie.

What else are you gonna do, send them to the pound?

@Mobius depends if they're into the serious consequence stuff (which I am) but probably you want to sell me to a sheep farmer... and never tell them I wasnt a dog... uh they - they werent a dog >.>

@Fuego
Hey, not like the sheep farmer would believe me, or you, for that matter, when you try scrawling something in the dirt with those cute claws.
You- I mean they!- will have a hard time convincing anyone of anything.

(no but really why not own a border collie? I had one when I was a kid, I'm curious)

@Mobius because if they don't get enough stimulation they are super duper unhappy and hard to live with. And "enough stimulation" means hours a day of work which is not reasonable for someone who works a normal job and lives in a normal place.

@Fuego
ah, I was living in Alaska with my retired grandmother, I think Rudy ended up with enough stimulation. Amazing dog, lived for 15 years. Born the same day as me!

@Mobius yeah - alaskan sized land and an always at home person would do the trick ;) I work from home and have a small farm, and my husband is a dog trainer, but we still struggle to keep my pup happy. She's a particularly high strung boco though - her grandfather was a world herding champ so she does NOT slow down or get tired :/