hot take;
something I do not think [x people] get is that violence is necessary sometimes. This doesn't make it good, it's NEVER good. And I don't just mean hey, you did something which is at least ethically dubious.
I don't think [y people] get that when you use violence to solve problems, not only have you created fallout later among those you can't negotiate with, but the people who dominate YOUR group are now people good at violence with an interest in keeping things violent.