@frost My *opinion* is no, you shouldn't. Call center is everything you hate about retail and answering the phone, and my last run in with it was emotionally brutal. Working at Target or Safeway is probably emotionally easier.
I think it'd be useful to have a resume for more generic stuff which would simply detail on programming experience.
@Leucrotta Definitely not gonna look for call center then – we trust your experience!
I'm poking some staffing agency called Kelly for temp jobs but they don't seem to have much in the way of useful stuff.
I hope it's not something about our resume that makes all the tech places reject us.
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@Leucrotta How's being a barista compare to other fast food? Like, it's still fast food, but probably a lot less greasy/smelly/otherwise gross/etc.
...But we've never been in a coffeeshop at busy times; I bet it's as fast-paced as other types of fast food when it gets busy.
[we'd be standing all day.] ...oh right, fuck.
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@Leucrotta This thought brought to you by seeing Peets in the job search results for some kind of manufacturing automation position (not our skillset), wondering if they have IT and/or CS stuff, and then wondering if just the regular barista job might work for now.
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@frost It's pretty okay. The grossest part is if you're working an espresso machine, it's easy to spill grounds on your hand while cleaning the filter which is kinda oorgh. And I mean the typical food service stuff like having to clean bathrooms etc. Honestly the worst part is it's still food service, so it does get busy and doesn't pay that well.
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@frost but like if you could survive on that money I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Like even though some customers are terrible I still feel like I'm doing something, even if small, for people, rather than just oh hey I help x huge organization make money.
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@Leucrotta nice! ;3 That's reassuring.
I doubt we could survive on our own on that money, but some money is probably better than no money right now.
And coffee grounds are a little oorgh but a LOT less gross than oil, I feel like. :3
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@Leucrotta (well, some money is better than no money UNLESS the place we're at sees that we Have A Job™ and goes "well you're fine now!" and kicks us out. They said they wouldn't. I still don't trust them.)
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@frost @Leucrotta i used to work as a barista; it's definitely not a job for someone with chronic fatigue imo; constantly on your legs, busy times get BUSY, gotta clean constantly including bathrooms, and as a bonus customers still yell at you sometimes (and you could get all kinds of food liquids spilled everywhere depending on what the coffee shop has to offer, not just coffee)
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@wolfe @Leucrotta ooph.
thanks.
yeahhh the constantly on your legs bit in particular worries me.
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@frost @Leucrotta that said, if you're curious, you can always apply, get invited to an interview and, uh, interview them on the kind of work they'd want you to do; just keep in mind it'll almost definitely not be a good fit
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@wolfe @Leucrotta yyyeah maybe we shouldn't bother then.
I bet they'd look funny at us when we showed up to the job interview rocking a cane. :3
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@Leucrotta @wolfe Oh good! ..And hh.
Our mobility is actually probably /better/ than our ability to stand in one place for four hours straight...
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@Leucrotta @wolfe like, mobility and stamina are two different things!
I don't know if they'd understand that though, not being disabled.
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@Leucrotta @wolfe Oh hey, would being enough of a regular that some of the baristas recognize us give us a leg up in the hiring process? I wonder if referrals are a thing.
(not that we really know each other beyond just their name recognition... also some know us as "Wolf" and some know us as "Frost", since we've started using our own names sometimes, when they don't go "Wolf, right?", anyway. That might be slightly awkward. I don't think any of them know us as Topaz, although Topaz ordered coffee himself once.)
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@frost @Leucrotta it could go either way; maybe try asking them next time you're there if they're hiring?
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@frost @Leucrotta i don't know what the culture around that is over there. in israel it's relatively accepted to do that for service industry jobs, "hey are you by any chance hiring?" and if they are, they take your contact details and give them to the manager
(that was how i got my coffee shop job actually! but the manager was there so we just scheduled an interview right there and then)
@wolfe @Leucrotta why are all the low-level "easy to get" jobs so physical
reddit comments: "oh UPS is always hiring package handlers!" hahaha..haha..no we'd die
"go into the trades!" we'd probably STILL die
@frost @Leucrotta i don't actually have an answer for why that is! good question honestly
@Leucrotta *checks out Peets*
hey they're hiring for the Lakeshore café we go to!
> Starting pay between $14.50 to $20.00 plus $3.00 – $6.00 per hour cash and electronic tips. Pay ranges are determined based on geography (State/Local regulations and market conditions)
Well that's unhelpful. This being the Bay Area, though, I bet it's more towards the $20 end of the range. Sounds like this is the nationwide range and not just the local range, the way they said that.
..Maybe we should look for a Peets that closes earlier, haha. We go to the Lakeshore one BECAUSE they close late!
@Leucrotta whooph. Thanks. 🧡