it's wild that dedicated GPS devices are still sold because in 90% of cases phones are way better and despite that the manufacturers never figured out how to make them not suck ass
I wonder if the ones for hiking and stuff are better
@noiob phones are probably generically better but the 10% is a big deal to a some people, and something that runs for 25h off two AAs probably hits that
if an eight-year-old design still pays off its shelf space, why not sell it
@bonzoesc ah yeah we don't really have that… aren't there like specialized GPS for boats?
@noiob there’s a wide range, from expensive built in ones that have external antennas that have complex system problems[1] to like $150 handhelds that float[2]
1: https://ti.arc.nasa.gov/m/profile/adegani/Grounding%20of%20the%20Royal%20Majesty.pdf
2: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/517154
@bonzoesc the Garmin looks like I'd enjoy using it
@noiob that's probably a big part too haha, they all seem like a new neat gizmo that's more interestingly complicated than a phone
@noiob oh yeah for vehicle navigation they’re awful
I’m thinking of hiking & boating tho (lots of boating in my urban area)