Firefox ToU, enshittification, :( 

Enshittification is tiring, especially when you know it's gonna happen and you can do little to stop it. Not like you even could donate to Firefox the project if you wanted to.

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@hcsch I mean you can donate to the mozilla foundation, I don't quite see your point

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@noiob you can, but that money need not go to Firefox, and Mozilla has demonstrated often enough that it doesn't care about Firefox

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@noiob I'm currently led to believe that Mozilla foundation money does not go to Firefox or at least not significantly so. They may be funding other nice projects with that, but if I want to support Firefox, a donation to the Mozilla foundation does not seem to be the right way. See also foundation.mozilla.org/en/what where Firefox does not seem to be mentioned

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@hcsch well someone's got to be paying all those Firefox devs

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@noiob they are being paid by the Mozilla Corporation, as far as I'm aware. While I could throw money at the foundation and hope it finds its way there, I would like that to be certain.
mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/a has some more details. I'm not even sure money could legally flow from the foundation to the corporation for developing firefox. And Moz Corp's strategic realignment plan features a "right-sizing [of] investments in Firefox-adjacent businesses"

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@hcsch afaik the Corporation pays the Foundation, not the other way around

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@noiob yeah, but that is kinda orthogonal to how Firefox is funded, I think.

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@noiob then again, it's not like I even have an amount of money to throw that would make an impact. But I think this is also what is stopping a lot of others from donating, because it seems like you cannot make a donation to Firefox specifically (unlike for thunderbird, where that is possible; it is led by the for-profit MZLA, under the Moz Foundation).

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@hcsch yeah it's all a bit of a mess

I understand that (the) Mozilla(s) have to keep making money so they can pay devs so Mozilla keeps being a competitive web browser but god

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@hcsch and in an ideal world I want Mozilla to have a little walking around money so they can fund cool side projects like FirefoxOS

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@noiob Yeah, that kinda stuff is nice. Mozilla is sadly less than ideal, and has been for a while. :/

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