how is there no way to just print a goddamned float to the console

@pcy nope! you get "outputdebugstring", which: does not have formatting of any kind. so everybody presumably just has their own "run sprintf and then output that" macro

@halcy hold on are you compiling as a win32 console program or a win32 gui program?

(because the former always opens a conhost window, the latter doesn't. windows really be sniffing glue)

@pcy ah yes, the reason why i literally had to write a program to start other programs without a console window

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