@Loosf @typhlosion but is this a generational thing? Because there are plenty of older people who do these things too. If there's some younger people that are Puritan, that doesn't make the entire generation more Puritan. I guess I'm also pissy about us doing the whole "millennials are entitled" thing but this time it's us saying that younger people are all prudes.
It might also be that social media is a terrible place for this kinda nuance, lol

@Serecen @typhlosion oh it definitely is terrible

Doesn't seem to me like a general generational thing, rather than SOME younger people trying to assert control over spaces they've barely been allowed into

Like, with furries it happens, minors trying to make every furry space minor friendly, butting into places they shouldn't be
Lol

But it's also a thing, a lot of youth online spaces, fandoms and such seem to prime then for exclusionary mindsets, and establishing strict acceptability parameters

It's messy

@Serecen @typhlosion i personally think that is not that all are
But that there are some very loud ones who do want to sanitize everything. Who actually believe in acceptability politics.

"You make the LGBTQ community look bad" says the 16 year old to the rubber or latex kinksters

@Loosf @typhlosion that makes way more sense. Teens are in a place where asserting themselves and making space at the expense of others is a normal part of growing up, tbh. Every teen, including us when we were teens, is a little bit of a narcissist.

I feel like the reaction to this completely normal thing that teens do is the part that annoys me. They're teens! I knew a lot of my fellow teens, straight out of American public schools were brainwashed as hell into believing abstinence is the only way to live. The word 'Puriteen' irks me, I suppose, because it feels like victim blaming. Like we're mocking them the same way I remember being mocked for being young and it raises my hackles.

@Serecen @typhlosion a lot of it, i think, is hypervigilance because in so many aspects they feel they have to self police. Conform, be acceptable to their social standards. Personal lives, their fandom spaces, everything.

Got to be "the right kind" "clean" "acceptable"
Teens accusing random people not in their spaces of being "proshippers" as if that meant *anything* out of their spaces.

Trying to make everyone else conform to THEIR little rules.

That's an issue.
I hope they learn and grow out of it

@Serecen @typhlosion
Seriously, a lot of it, i think, comes from being uncomfortable at seeing that OTHERS do not feel shame or discomfort with behavior and presentation that they have been conditioned to perceive as bad, shameful, wrong

"You are making me look bad, by being how you are"

"I'm one of the good ones"

@Loosf @typhlosion in my experience, when boomers were saying that we were entitled, it was a confession. Boomers were accusing younger people of doing the thing Boomers were guilty of.
When one looks at a teenager, one doesn't see a person, one sees a mirror of oneself as a teen. The things we accuse teenagers of is not the truth- it's a reflection of what we perceive about our own past.
I grew up thinking that adults in my life were all too eager to tell me what I was, and they never gave me space to figure out what I was for myself. I fear we, as a generation, are making the same mistake again.

@Loosf @typhlosion they might grow out of it, they might not, I mean look at how many of our generation or how many boomers still try to police spaces. I think there's waaaay more millennials out there still trying to police spaces than there are teens, I run into those millennials every day. They never grew out of that narcissism- but everyone has a chance to grow. I want to encourage that growth in younger people by being open and informative, not by mocking them or accusing them of things we're also guilty of doing.

@Serecen @Loosf sure, its probably an overemphasis on the "teen" bit. im just trying to describe what the phrase means to me is all

@Serecen @Loosf ah sorry for not reading the whole thread. i dissociated on tumblr for a while. im sorry, i probably shouldnf have said anything

would it be too much to ask to be untagged from this conversation

@Loosf @Serecen @typhlosion it may be a shot in the dark, but maybe christian tiktok may have had a role in the whole puriteen thing, seeing how popular they are on that platform