I really want a Macbook Pro but without having to support Apple. The product itself is so nice and OS X is questionably good, and at least looks pretty good.

But Apple is trash right now and I don't know how to get what I want without sacrificing my ehtical beliefs.

Either way, I do not own the moneies.

@murilega I've been casually looking around, still don't have money though and usually people heavily overprice them even when they're super old models

@Shadow8t4 theyre good laptops and they last a long time so they have insane resale value

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@murilega @Shadow8t4 The trick is to find a true Mac fanatic who is selling their current MacBook to gather cash towards buying the newest.

(That's how I got my 2013 MacBook Pro for a good price, anyway.)

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