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I just prefer the idea of a jesus who could be miraculous or could be just clever, and it doesn't really matter cuz they're just a hook (or net #callback) anyway, just getting a crowd to gather so he can spread his genuine positive message
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Luke 8 opens with a parable about strewn seeds trying to grow, to show how people can hear the message, even believe it, but not grok it. which feels important, like maybe it could be said that a Good Christian is one who examines whether they are misunderstanding the ideas, or giving up on them when they're hard, or are too distracted or busy to really enact the ideas
this has been a subtoot of *gestures vaguely at ✝️*
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gotta say, not sure how I feel about how jesus handled this situation. Legion doesn't seem to want the demons (which I am 100% reading as alters) to go. I guess putting them in the pigs is a compromise, but why did the pigs all then stampede off a cliff? did the demon souls spook the pigs' souls or something?
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Luke 9 is giving me Troubled Jesus vibes again. he's asking who people think he is, prophesizing his death, saying someone's going to betray him. he heads toward Jerusalem, where he expects to die, and tells people off for things that would slow him down. even potential new followers wanting to bury their father or say goodbye to their family first
I wonder if maybe he's thinking his followers will never really Get his message, seeing that he can't change the world by preaching, feeling hopeless that it will ever change at all. wondering if he should just surrender himself for execution and go out a martyr
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I'm reading the wikisource version (because it's an easier read than any of the, like, Proper olde translations) and spot checking against other versions when something is unclear
I thought it was weirdly idiomatic and jovial that its translation of Luke 12:19 starts "Then I'll tell myself, ‘Self...", but no that's basically what other versions say
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sometimes I feel like these parables are deliberately obtuse. I mean I'm probably just missing context, but it could also be that he's saying stuff (or things are written/translated in a way) that seems like it could make sense but doesn't quite, so you think he's clever and understands things better than you
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Luke 14:26 is a hot take. pretty sure that's against a commandment, isn't it? but also I can see how this informs the way the straights are in their relationships lol
"If anyone wants to come to me and does not hate their father and mother, and spouse and children, and brothers and sisters—yes, and their own life too—they can’t be my disciple"
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I completely skipped the genealogy section because who gives a shit, but I just now noticed the footnote saying that the genealogy is verifiably incorrect. there are apparently two other old testament books that say matt skips several generations. which is extra sketchy given that he also makes a big deal out of abraham to david and david to babylonian exile and exile to jesus all being 14 generations
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"After he was baptized, Jesus immediately got out of the water, and heaven opened before him, and he saw God’s spirit as a dove descending, landing on him. A voice came from heaven, saying, “This is my son, the one I love, who pleases me.”"
and then everyone at the Arby's clapped
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I can't tell what parts of what jesus says are supposed to be genuine prescriptions and predictions and what parts are exaggerated, either by jesus or by matt, to make points. half of what he says is either contradicted elsewhere or is a metaphor using signifiers that don't connect at all to 21st century me
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and then half of the stuff that seems like genuine prescriptions is utterly ignored by people who claim to follow him. which, granted, is something he pointed out himself at the time. literally everyone is picking and choosing, including and especially the people who claim to follow every word
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matt 6:1
"Be careful not to do your good deeds in front of people, so they can be observed—otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven"
but
matt 5:15
"People don’t light a lamp and put it under a bucket. Instead they put it on a lamp-stand and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine in front of people, so they can see the good things you do, and praise your heavenly father."
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@wolfgang I've seen several quotes pulled from the old (usually entirely out of context), so it's possible it's originally from there