@Felthry But I thought cider was meant to be fermented apples...

@BatElite the word cider alone means an alcoholic drink, but apple cider does not, it just means apple juice with more of the actual apple in

it's similar to how "beer" alone means an alcoholic drink, but "ginger beer" is non-alcoholic by default

we did some research on this when we first learned about it; it turns out the reason behind it is that if you make apple cider the normal way and don't filter it (which would make what's called apple juice here), it ends up fermenting on its own unless you pasteurize it, so there was no distinction between alcoholic apple cider and non-alcoholic apple cider until the invention of pasteurization

then the US and Europe settled on different ones as the default