question of curiosity:

we're not planning on buying one now, but would it generally be preferable to get a used PS4, or to get a PS5? we've heard the PS5 is backwards compatible
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@Felthry The PS5 is backwards compatible, so if you expect to want a reasonable number of PS5-exclusive games that's what I'd recommend.

@KamareDrache i can't say we're even aware of any ps5-only games
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@KamareDrache i guess the question is more, how much does the ps5 cost and how reliable is it (because we all know that launch edition consoles these days are bad--the x360's red ring of death, the ps4's notorious fan noise, etc), and are there any problems with it that would make the ps4 the better choice if you onyly want to play ps4 games
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@Felthry If you don't mind not having physical discs, you can get one for $399. I don't know anything about reliability, though. I won't be getting one til the new year.

@KamareDrache "not having physical disks" is 100% absolutely a complete dealbreaker for us
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@Felthry $499 then. Which is probably a heck of a lot more than you can get a PS4 for.

@Felthry Yeah that figures. I'd probably suggest googling for lists of PS5 exclusives and seeing if anything takes your fancy. If nothing does, then a PS4 is probably the best choice. A PS5 would run everything better, but honestly the PS4 is fast enough for most games.

@KamareDrache honestly the only ps4 exclusives we know of that we're that interested in are bloodborne and horizon zero dawn
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@KamareDrache we don't know of any ps5 ones at all, we've not found many modern games to be that enticing
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@Felthry Yeah, a PS5 probably isn't something you'd need to consider then.

@KamareDrache though we also don't plan on getting an xbox so anything that's on both xbox/ps might as well be a ps exclusive
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@Felthry An awful lot of XBox games are also on PC because of Microsoft. Not all, but a lot of them.

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