owww who the fuck's bright idea was it to put invisible ice all over the sidewalk
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add one to the "problems we really should have anticipated moving to oregon but didn't somehow" counter

and two or three to the bruises counter
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@Felthry ow! sympathies - I don't know who keeps doing that but they've been doing it over here, too

it's very rude and I'm sorry y'all got bruised

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@Felthry And, ooof, I'm sorry.

Have you lived in cold climates before? There's ways of walking in boots that reduce the chances of slipping, although I'm not sure I can describe just how it's different. I guess setting feet down more vertically, really. If you can watch people's feet tromping through snow you might pick it up.

@Austin_Dern No, we've visited family in cold climates but never lived fruther north than memphis
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@Felthry @Austin_Dern

"putting your feet down vertically" is a good way of describing it, as a former southerner who moved to yearly snow land over in michigan, we've had to learn that the hard way. we know there's better boots you can get (some canadian group actually ranks boots based on how grippy they are / how good they are in icy conditions) but... we don't have any links handy or anything atm.

@nautilee @Felthry oh, is that the thing Tom Scott did a video about that one time? ratemytreads.com/

(the video is youtube.com/watch?v=q1oRaUTbk3 - we got that link from the description)

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@Felthry Yeah, mm. I'm trying to think how to describe the winter-walking stance. I feel like it's more leaning forward, so you put your weight down more perpendicular to the surface, so even if you hit some ice your feet have less tangential speed to slip any.

Take it slow while you're learning winter walking, too.

@Austin_Dern @Felthry yeah, speaking as someone who's prone to falling down anyway, black ice when walking is no fucking joke. the most important tip is go slow, slower than you think you need to, and probably slower than that. >______< I've found using a cane actually helps--it gives a third point of stability, although it also gives a possible third point of slippage. I've never used cleats, but we don't usually have ice on the ground for too long here in Seattle--a couple of weeks, before the rain washes it away. XD

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