Today's trouble:
Reading alto clef.
Heck, I'm not used to that one.
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@ziphi we don't come across it often but it's the only one we're good at reading, because we played viola in high school
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@ziphi i wonder what other arcane clefs are out there

we know about the tenor one, and of course the bass and treble and alto

are there others?
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@Felthry Musescore at least has a bunch of fun ones. Though most of them are archaic and regional and not really used for anything anymore.

This could actually be a fascinating subject to look into.

@ziphi What are the doubled treble clef, the rectangular one, and the two that just say TAB?

not to mention all those weird/archaic ones at the bottom
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@ziphi (I recognise a couple of the ones on the bottom as old versions of the C clef (the symbol for both alto and tenor clefs)
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@Felthry The doubled one is listed as "Double treble clef 8va bassa on the second line."

Dunno entirely how that works.

The rectangle is for a percussion part.

TAB is short for tablature, which is a numerical fret notation for instruments like guitar.

Here's an example of tab notation:

@ziphi I thought the double bar one was for percussion.

Tablature looks really hard to read, but I imagine it's way easier if you're used to it. ....does that staff have six lines?
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@Felthry Each line represents a string on the guitar. The bottom line is the low E, than A, D, G, B, and high E going up. The numbers are where to put your hand on the fretboard, with each half step being it's own number.

It's usually more for finger positions with the rhythm being picked out by ear.

@ziphi Huh, that's an interesting system. Still feels weird! But I guess it's probably intuitive to people who play guitar
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@Felthry It's a little wonky, and most simplified tabs have no indication for the duration of the notes. But it's very useful, and easier to approach for people than standard music notation, if less versatile.

@ziphi I kinda think there just isn't any really good musical notation. the standard stuff does a decent job of showing what the music is (and it's very flexible) but it's apparently really hard for people to learn, and the percussion extension for it is really wonky
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@Felthry I am terrible with percussion. Would like to learn more about it, but I know very little about how it's notated or played.

I don't have the best rhythmic sense either.
@Felthry I'm not particularly good at any of them to be honest. But I've got something of a feel for treble and bass and am getting better at those.

I just haven't written enough viola parts to be that familiar with it yet.

I'm learning slowly as I practice violin. Reading music was never that necessary for the sort of guitar music I played.
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