re: modern tech grumbles 

@monsterblue @Felthry I second this. Get a Logitech that doesn't have features that require drivers (so no macros, etc) and it Just Works with none of this BS.
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re: modern tech grumbles 

@trysdyn @monsterblue we like having all the extra buttons, and that requires the drivers unfortunately

fortunately this one (G604) can be set so that all the settings stuff is handled by the mouse and the software doesn't need to do anything (which we were glad to figure out because the software *loves* to do popup notifications about what the mouse's current DPI setting is whenever you start moving the mouse after a minute or so of not moving it, but when the settings are all on the mouse it doesn't do any of that)
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