pol 

I've been wondering about people's apparent apathy towards changing the world. Most folks I talk to seem to be pretty confident that the world is as good as it can get, realistically. We can imagine better ways, but not achieve them, and they also tend to say that any attempt would only make things worse.

It doesn't help that the people who have the most power to change the world are the ones with the least reason to do so, and often the most to lose.

pol 

Sometimes I wonder if the issue is that most people don't know what the world is really like. We're caught in so many webs of lies over so many generations now, I doubt I even know about half of them by this point, and it's making it hard to trust anything. It's not even conspiracy theories, these are proven, and sometimes openly admitted, but only in places where most people wouldn't actually look. They take it for granted, and often actively try not to aknowledge the world.

pol 

I've seen many folks, even close friends, who hear about things that are plain facts they can look up, and they refuse to believe it. It couldnt be that way, that would be too terrible.

The worst thing, I'm pretty sure in their subconcious the thought goes more like "That can't be true, if it was I'd have to do something about it." and it's kind of a safety mechanism? They have so much to lose that they don't dare risk it. "I've got mine." is a popular attitude, despite everything.

pol 

I'd like to completely rearrange the economic systems of our society. I'd like to be able to discuss it with other folks, too, and find better ways to do that! I run into a lot of walls, though. Even inside myself.

I want to get rid of land ownership, for one thing. I'd actually like to restructure 'ownership' as we understand it. Make everything 'owned' by everyone, but assigned to certain people as a responsibility.

It still means a lot of people would have their assets and power seized.

pol 

A lot of folks don't want their assets and power seized, right? Whether they inherited them or worked for them, whether they're a cruel landlord or a kind one who thinks they're helping, they don't want to give all that up. They'd see it as stealing, since they 'own' it, right?

I don't know how to convince anyone to do all that. I'm having a hard enough time convincing poor people who don't own land it's a good idea, even.

pol 

I'm also having trouble figuring out how to handle government. There's issues with what we've got now, and I've got ideas that MIGHT be better? Or maybe not. None of them seem better enough.

I don't want to turn to dictatorship, that's not going to work, not even a benevolent dictatorship. With our democracies, however, we end up with leaders who are good at getting elected, rather than being good at governing. Plus it seems like most people are just incapable of making informed votes.

pol 

I've gone over the idea of direct democracy in my head, too. What if everybody was the government, and instead of voting on representatives we just voted for ourselves on bills and such? But, the same issue of people not being good governors is there. Half of everybody is below average, they say. It's more of a bell curve, I guess, but it seems like a lot of folks who are ignorant or avoid facing the facts in front of them are all too eager to press their views on others.

pol 

In the elections we do have, not very many people actually vote. Talking with people, I think it's because a lot of them aren't confident in their capability to make a good choice. Others see no good choices on the ballot, and abstain. Many just don't care, because they're focused on other things.

The awkward fact is, at least for now people have to be governed by people. I just don't know how to get good government from that, without it falling apart over time.

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re: pol 

@relee I think voting and election systems that aren't winner-takes-all would be a good step. Not a solution, but part of one.
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re: pol 

@Felthry One of the ideas I've been trying to build on is that the elected government should appoint professionals to act in their stead. That way the populist can offload the actual work to someone who knows what they're doing, but wasn't popular enough to win an election, and yet still representes the values they hold and were elected for.

This is somewhat how our system works here in Canada, but it's ruined by our economic system since it leads to corruption.

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