stoned thoughts thanks to "a collection of zen and pre zen writings" as reading material next to the toilet 

so if a three-legged vessel is a *ting*

and Buddhism came to China sometime in the Han dynasty, centuries before Chuan came into existence, but most people know that philosophy as Zen

that means any three legged predynastic bronze vessel is a PRE ZEN TING.

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re: stoned thoughts get worse, poop jokes 

this thought brought to you by how "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones A Collection of Zen and Pre Zen Writings" is the paperback currently next to the toilet, in case I spend a lot of time being one with the void

two monks were having an argument about crapping. The first monk said "This morning's unusually spicy cold noodles are moving." The second said "Wind is moving." A third monk, happening along, offered "Mind is moving."

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