Uspol rant 

Most conservatives really are conservative. They don’t want change because they’re worried about change for the worse, usually phrased in a dualistic, moralistic way- punitive stuff is the easiest way to phrase morality. They worry taxes are going to increase, the government will get up in their business, but there’s no benefit for them - just people they worry are coasting at best or murderous at worst. That opens them up to racism, outright lies, profiteering, a world of evils.

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Uspol rant 

Theoretically most of these guys could be our allies. You’d somehow need to convince them that transit, health care, UBI, solar power and turbines, tolerance etc benefits them; and above all else, that they’re NOT bad people, that they’re basically good, hard working etc. Doing this would ordinarily be hard; doing this when any government thing is gonna have mistakes is nigh impossible; Fox News, the Republicans and megachurches make this impossible.

Uspol rant 

If it sounds like I’m saying “these are good people,” I am, BUT that’s the whole CRT argument about systemic racism and Marx talking about worker alienation, etc. You can be a great guy who basically wants good things but if the worldview you’re conservative about is bigoted, punitive, and exploited by anti-environment profiteers, what’s going to come out is NOT GOOD. If I’m making any sense? Anyway, end of rant.

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@Leucrotta

You do make sense. Shouting at someone who could be persuaded to join your ‘side’ is a bad strategy. (So is insisting that they sacrifice their dignity in order to be allowed to help fight the good fight. People will die for their dignity.)

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@Verdigris how do you reach out to someone who’s actively your enemy though, who holds that your faith is a murderous abomination and your friends are subhuman?

And I’m sure someone on the opposite side has thought the same.

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@Leucrotta

Daryl Davis seems to have a pretty good method: youtu.be/ORp3q1Oaezw

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