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Final note. Wikipedia says the version of Ludendorff in the movie bears little resemblance to reality. To the extent that the real Ludendorff didn't have fuckin supernatural powers or Ares whispering in his ear that's true, but he was definitely an evil dick and imo would have taken this opportunity if presented it, most prominent Germans would not have done the same. If Ludendorff has any descendants around they can't really claim that this is slanderous.

Ludendorff eventually broke off his friendship with Hitler in 1925, but for personal rather than ideological reasons. And the breakup was somewhat one-sided as Hitler continued to look up to him.

Ludendorff really was so important to the rise of the Nazis that I find it inconceivable it could have happened without him. Even if WWII happened it couldn't have happened in the same way.

I'm deeply curious to see if the movieverse even bothers to patch this one up.

The proceeds from Mein Kampf allowed Hitler to pay off his court costs. He made a great deal of money off the book (even more since he refused to pay taxes on the proceeds -- a debt that was waived once Hitler took political power.)

It was a success that convinced Hitler he could take power by legal means.

Three. However, the Nazi Party was nevertheless banned in 1924.

Who picked up their slack, merged his party with theirs and got them seats?

Yep it's Ludendorff again

Hitler did not become famous until the Hitler-Ludendorff-Putsch. The event got him national attention, his subsequent trial allowed him to propound his by-then extremist views to the nation at large, and his cushy sentence -- quite possibly related to the involvement of "respectable" figures like Ludendorff -- enabled him to write Mein Kampf while in prison; his extensive visitation rights helped others like Rudolf Hess contribute to editing the eventual best seller.

He came up with the idea. He was the first prominent figure to use the phrase "stabbed in the back" in reference to the German war effort. And he continued flogging this during his later career in politics.

Two. That later career in politics kicked off with a series of attempted coups: he was involved in both the Kapp Putsch, stopped by massive civilian/worker resistance, and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch. In German it's called the Hitler-Ludendorff-Putsch. I'm serious.

Why? Well. Several reasons.

One. Right after Hitler ended his service in WWI and heard about the treaty, he was angry even then. But his immediate reaction was to serve as an officer in the socialist Bavarian Soviet Republic.

Hitler obviously wouldn't stick with that political model: he would sign on to the so-called "stab-in-the back legend", under which "traitors" such as Jews and Communists home undermined the war effort.

This legend was invented by Erich Ludendorff.

So there's lots of plot holes in this movie but the one that's been bugging me isn't even internal to the movie, it's this:

In the movie Diana has to kill Erich Ludendorff to save the peace deal (long fucking story) but regardless he ends up dead

In our world he lives until 1937 but that's not even the problem.

The problem is I don't know if you can have a recognizable WWII if Ludendorff dies in 1918, yet DC obviously has one http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/World_War_II

@xkeeper (I feel this, too. It seemed like there was community for me once, but it was small, and when a few people went away for whatever reason, the community kind of evaporated)

I checked the local timeline and everyone is talking about sandwiches

ok

basically just a lot of additional fracturing, which at first seemed okay but that may have been just a temporary uptick in overall activity masking the problem

oh, well. maybe I just haven't found the places I belong

twitter remains twitter, but with 30% less activity
the most interesting posts on my facebook are usually sponsored, which is fucking bizarre

I guess the closest is discord but it feels extremely distant somehow

mastodon was really great for a little while, but people don't seem to be interacting with us much anymore, whichever account we get on

i'm on like six platforms now and none of them are really satisfying me socially

Some interesting headspace stuff going on lately. Re-clarifying our needs there, and Steff and Shara are helping more with the architecture and emotional network respectively.

We've gotten our intensity back, too; it's just occured to me that that is probably related