@porsupah @mew Mmmph. I'm down to a few seconds of pencil-grip before losing feeling in most of my radial-nerve fingers these days, so I don't know if I have any _solutions_ per se. I *do* know a lot of my artpain issues seem to be related to neck and upper back issues alongside older wrist and forearm tendon damage, so taking care of the carpals and such doesn't do as much to delay symptom onset as making sure I'm in a *good* chair and whatever I'm drawing on is at a good height & angle.