@kotep I think this thought spiral stems from their complete inability to envision other people as, uh, people. Objective beauty is completely doable in a world where you’re the only person and everyone else is some Descartian thought experiment. The fact that they can’t understand or envision the inner workings of other people and the fact that their ideology prioritizes only themselves isn’t a coincidence. Sorry for blah blah - this is very similar to a convo I had earlier so I’m on it RN