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@Azure Enh. There's an entire school of economics that can get macroeconomics and most of global microeconomics without debt through the clever use of equity investment, and it completely avoids the necessity of spending what you don't have because you can still talk about negative equity during underwater periods without enabling "debt" as a concept. That said, that's such a hair-splitting distinction that it doesn't address your deeper point, which is that some comparisons are bad.

Pol/Disc 

@Azure I would generally agree that debt is a bad _concept_ but it would take reframing the whole of the global economy to get away from it, and that's not what these people are arguing. They are, as Pauli would put it, not even wrong.

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