@shel I suppose my challenge is that at some point we're going to have to draw the distinction between "personal" and "private" by whatever labels you want to call them. If you want to call it "private" and "remote" or "personal" and "collective" or whatever pair of terms, fine, but I think the real issue is that we need to get people used to the idea that some things as "not ownable by individuals," point out that individuals claim to own them, and then draw the necessary conclusions.

@shel The labels are placeholders for an idea. I'm not beholden to the labels themselves. I'm more worried that the idea needs to be conveyed and that people will eventually work out whatever labels for themselves they need to put on those ideas. I'm not going to try to be a linguistic prescriptivist and declare what the labels ought to be.

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