@noiob huh
my only experiences with php have been absolute hell but i suppose a lot of that was just the stdlib and web stuff
@xnx38h the biggest problem PHP has imo is that most tutorials online are garbage and sometimes even teach people to write horribly insecure code (e.g. most mysqli tutorials don't use prepared statements)
@xnx38h and if you really wanna see PHP at its best check out the Symfony book