@dogo @noiob i guess they mostly implied stuff like webpack and such, because IMO TS is 100% worth the "build" time tradeoff anyway

@Eramdam @dogo we're luckily not using webpack, just vite

@noiob @dogo i mean, no matter the bundler, if your codebase is big enough it will get slower anyway :')

@noiob @dogo (and webpack itself isn't particularly slow, it just gets slow when you throw in transforms with babel and such which you might actually not need a lot of depending on what browsers you target)

@Eramdam @dogo well, my php backend code doesn't need a compile step [when deploying]

@noiob @dogo I mean true but I sure hope you don't have runtime issues caused by mishandling of types :P

@noiob @dogo Like, sure vanilla JS doesn't require a "build" or compile step but then you have to be extra extra careful about shit like type handling and such. It's fine up until a certain scale at which you're better off having a compiler to catch dumb mistakes that can cause you bad crashes at runtime

@Eramdam @dogo if it was up to me there would be as little js as possible anyways

@dogo I wouldn't mind typescript at all if I could send it straight to the browser

my preferred way of rendering websites is server-side with some nice templates