@frostwolf @noiob frost I'm pretty sure that person is just being either too edgy or joking

I yet have to meet a person who would want to genocide cis or heterosexual people

it's not like the cis and the straight people at the top of the hierarchy are now suddenly marginalized because of this post

@tillianisafox @noiob Just 'cause it's supposedly a "joke" doesn't make it okay, just like it wouldn't be okay if it were homophobic.

@frostwolf @noiob literally 99.9% of the people here know it's not okay to kill people because of their identities though?

@tillianisafox @noiob That doesn't mean it's okay to advocate for it!

Like.

Poe's Law.

I have no way of knowing that they don't actually mean what they say. If you say something, I'm gonna assume you mean it.

@frostwolf @tillianisafox of course you have a way of knowing, otherwise you'd have like, alerted the authorities or sth that there's a serial killer out there

@frostwolf @tillianisafox yeah no you can't do the "if you flipped it, would it be okay?" if there's a massive power imbalance between the two options

@frostwolf @noiob frost, do you know the difference between punching up and punching down?

@frostwolf @noiob like, in the joke sense

@tillianisafox @noiob There's punching up, and then there's talking about /killing people simply because of who they are/.

Eating the rich is one thing. Killing everyone heterosexual? That's another thing entirely.

Y'all, please just fuck off. I am not going to start thinking it's okay. It is not.

@frostwolf @tillianisafox eating kills people

@noiob @frostwolf and nobody said that killing straight people was okay though

@tillianisafox @noiob That guy with the username is!

@tillianisafox @noiob Which is the entire point of this thread.

@tillianisafox @noiob Like.

They are LITERALLY saying exactly that. "It's a joke" doesn't make it okay.

@frostwolf @tillianisafox do you think NOFX want to kill all white people? (https://genius.com/Nofx-kill-all-the-white-man-lyrics)

@frostwolf @tillianisafox like, you gotta understand that you can say something and not mean literally that

@noiob @tillianisafox I know it is possible.

But that doesn't make it okay to say the thing in a case like this.

Song lyrics tend to be a bit looser. This is more like saying it in a normal situation.

@frostwolf @noiob https://meow.social/@tillianisafox/109317061181357609 again as I said

@noiob @tillianisafox Like, if you walk down the street and shout "kill every hetero!"? yeah.

@frostwolf @tillianisafox if I did that nothing would happen though? like people would look at me a bit strange and walk faster

@noiob @tillianisafox aaand you'd also reinforce the whole "the queer people are out to get us" mindset.

Like I said, you can't really explain how people aren't out to get them when people like this /literally are/.

@noiob @tillianisafox But anyway, like I said.

You are NOT going to convince me that it's okay.

Please fuck off.

@frostwolf @tillianisafox no I'd reinforce the notion "some people are weirdos who shout weird stuff on the street"

@noiob @tillianisafox There's weird, and then there's /hateful./

But please.
Just.
Go.
Away.

@noiob @frostwolf shork, let's just not escalate. clearly he doesn't wanna talk right now. let's respect that.

@frostwolf @noiob "queer people are out to get us" is a homophobic moral panic which is repeated by people who can't think for themselves and i am not obligated to dance around what homophobes require of me in order to be respected in this society

even if i am a bad person they should judge me and not my identity

if someone supports our rights just because we are playing on their terms, they're not a true ally

@tillianisafox @frostwolf yeah also saying "be nice so the cishets like us" is respectability politics and those don't work

@frostwolf @noiob if you are worried about them being an actual heterophobic person, such occurrence would be so rare that to assume it is true instantly would be a bit of a mistake

but, on the other hand, you can just be vigilant and keep an eye on them if they _are_ actually what you think. if that is going to be the case, well, i am taking my words back