@emmy wait you actually need 5G standalone?

I'd say get a Pixel, but I'm not sure if they have SA everywhere, I'm pretty sure my 4a 5G can't with my current provider (Vodafone.de)

@noiob Yeah my last phone was a pixel (5A), unless someone has an idea.

The last pre-5g phones I used, all had so little reception (especially since 5g became "standard") that I don't feel safe with them, and it was getting worse.

And I mostly consider phones a safety device.

So I consider 5G a safety requirement.

@emmy hm, 5G NSA actually uses an LTE carrier (5G just to improve throughput) but if you're saying LTE didn't get you enough coverage I guess it was actually SA?

@emmy maybe I'm just too used to the awful coverage here in Germany and elsewhere there's actually proper 5G support

@noiob Yeah. Here in USA, it's kinda the other way around - the latest standard is very well supported, and with anything older you're lucky to get a signal.

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@emmy wild, but I do appreciate that it's taking a while to phase out the older stuff here

@noiob Yeah.

Like, carriers here are discontinuing 2G outright in places.

I've used 2g before (all my phones seem to support it, and sometimes it's the only - or fastest - signal they can get). It's adequate.

I appreciate that speed isn't the only advantage, but it'd be nice if you could keep a phone for more than a decade-or-two product life cycle.

@emmy Yeah, over here I think they're going to discontinue 3G first so older phone keep working (or can fall back on that), I think that's very sensible

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