the germans when I'm giving grief to the americans for putting the most specific part of the date in the middle instead of doing either least specific to most specific or most specific to least specific: ja codl, you tell them. It's only logical to do this
the germans when I'm looking at the way they write postal adresses: (sweating in german)

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@codl I feel like this is a shared struggle, like no my address doesn't need the state, AliExpress somehow wants governmental district instead which is named after the nearest bigger city,

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