I gotta say, the Ikea ALPSTUGA air quality sensor is also a pretty nice LED clock for the bedroom, especially if you already have a Matter hub. I ended up moving my fun thrift shop find clock radio into the office.

What's nice about it:

* Smol
* Not too bright
* Gives me useful air quality and CO2 and humidity metering for my bedroom (and the other two rooms I have one in, in addition to the other Matter-enabled meter in the living room)
* Automatically sets the time

What I don't like about it:

* No way to cycle display mode automatically
* After a firmware update or a power cut it resets to the not-a-clock mode
* HomeKit doesn't separate the sensors out like it does for HomePod Mini

But these things might be what gets me to finally switch to HomeAssistant for my primary automation, since HA will treat these things decently and can also do data logging (which HomeKit won't do). Most likely I'll have to band my head against how to get HomeAssistant to bridge things without causing all the things to double up in HomeKit though.

Unfortunately I think I need to still have HomeKit around for some of my pre-Matter devices.

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@noiob I'm aware, the problem is that when it does it ends up reflecting them back to the HomeKit controller and that causes problems.

@fluffy hm, does homekit support devices showing up on both sides? I don't have a homekit hub but making HA devices available for my iPad has been pretty painless, you just include/exclude devices or device classes and adopt the HA instance as a single device

@fluffy like, I'd think you just remove them from the Apple side of things completely and let HA handle what shows up there

@noiob I only tried HomeAssistant briefly a few years ago but yeah my experience was that if HomeAssistant adopted the HomeKit devices then I'd see both the HA and HK version of it in HomeKit and it wasn't clear how best to rectify that. Removing it from HomeKit also removed it from HomeAssistant, I think.

@fluffy I was under the impression that HA could adopt them without the need of a Homekit hub at all, but maybe I'm mistaken. You can definitely exclude devices from the list HA provides to Homekit though

@fluffy looking at the docs you should definitely be able to pair them directly to Home Assistant, which is what I would recommend if you're committed to the switch

@noiob yeah it'll take some work though, I have a lot of devices and automations to transfer over

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