birdsite, terf wizard lady et al, "cancel culture" 

meanwhile, it's another normal day on twitter

cancel culture 

i feel like there's two different things we talk about both as "cancel culture"

there's the thing where we critically examine the actions and beliefs of people with enormous amounts of influence and hold them accountable

and there's the thing where we use the same mechanisms to destroy the lives of small, often queer, creators for making mistakes or for making problematic content

we play a dangerous game by conflating the two

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cancel culture 

people who hurt people should be held accountable for that, no matter what. if a queer person with some small amount of clout hurt you, you deserve to find peace for that in some way

but i think we can afford a lighter, more restorative touch for people who, say, can't afford teams of lawyers and pr agents

to wit, if you dox a rich douche's address they can probably just hire a security detail and move

if you dox a queer person there's a decent chance they'll die on the streets

cancel culture, kiwifarms 

i guess this is why kiwifarms gets away with what it does. it's still fucking despicable, even if it sometimes goes after people who genuinely did harm, because they don't actually care about justice, just destroying people and laughing about it

a certain leftist furry whose name i will not publicly repeat thinks using "evidence" from kf is fine because sometimes their targets really are bad. thanks! you are a dangerous individual and i will never trust you again

cancel culture, kiwifarms, needless venom 

also, a hint: sometimes the targets you think are bad are not actually bad and you're caught in a web of deception that kiwifarms helped perpetrate. these are my fucking friends we're talking about, asshole

cancel culture, kiwifarms, musing 

and anyway, what's the difference between a bad person and a person who's simply done something bad? how can you tell the difference? are you bothering to try?

sometimes a lie is just the truth stripped of its nuance

cancel culture 

i have more thoughts about stuff like how purity politics in queer spaces interacts with all this but i'm tired of thinking about it. it's tiring. i'm tired

cancel culture 

@typhlosion THANK YOU.

Thank you /so/ much for talking about this.

*boosts thread*

cancel culture 

@typhlosion You can always come back later with your extremely thought-provoking stuff!

cancel culture, kiwifarms, musing 

@typhlosion justice should come with a goal. when powerful people are outed as abusers, the goal should be to get them to stop, generally by removing them from the power they leverage. unfortunately, in many cases the goal is not to prevent harm but to disappear people

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