Blistering Hot Take because I don't care anymore 

Maybe Trout Mask Replica is just awful music written by a self adsorbed idiot.

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re: Blistering Hot Take because I don't care anymore 

@Phorm I mean, I would defend the poignance and essential quality of "Orange Claw Hammer" in a debate. It is a hill I would be tempted to die on.

But I've also read enough about Van Vliet to be absolutely, completely, positively on board with the idea that he was a self-absorbed, narcissistic, abusive, self-indulgent piece of shit with a very questionable WIS score to back up all that musical whatever-it-was.

Same with Zappa, and it leaves me ashamed sometimes to admire his work so much, even though I have to filter so much adolescent, misogynistic, appropriative bullshit out of it AND shoulder the knowledge all those perfect chords and warped time signature trickery were the product of willfully induced human suffering. -______-

re: Blistering Hot Take because I don't care anymore 

@zebratron2084

I mean, I won't fault anyone their preferences. And "Orange Claw Hammer" is at least comprehensible on a level that I find the rest of the album is not.

Like, there's a message there - While the rest of the album really doesn't strike me as there being any /talent/ there, so much as utter self-sure insistence that there IS talent there.

Trout Mask Replica is essentially a musical demonstration of Dunning-Kruger.

I only just learned about all that abusive stuff, and.... woof, yeah. Holy heck.

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