@Thaminga a gas giant orbiting a gas giant, I wonder if the smaller one also has moons and if so just how deep orbital mechanics will physically let you go. Moons orbiting moons orbiting moons.

@Felthry I could definitely see four steps down happening (massive, almost-brown-dwarf gas giant -> small gas giant -> Mars-sized rocky moon -> tiny asteroidlike moonlet), though that would take a pretty huge system to really work out and sheer luck to actually like, exist

maybe around like, a type A or B star

@Thaminga @Felthry Now I'm wishing I'd taken screenshots of some of the buck-wild systems I've seen in Elite Dangerous (which claims to do a rough modeling of system accretion).

Here's one I found on a list of nearby Interesting Systems: https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/20145/name/32+Cassiopeiae

@starkatt @Thaminga we should really try elite dangerous sometime, supposedly it's pretty good

@Felthry @Thaminga I enjoyed it a lot! It's very, very pretty and gives a sense of scale I haven't seen anywhere else.

@starkatt @Thaminga I'd expect a similar sense of scale as No Man's Sky?

Kerbal Space Program also does a pretty good job of making you realize how big space is but that's just one solar system and a pretty small one at that

@Felthry @Thaminga Oh NMS left me *really* disappointed in terms of system modeling after coming from ED.

@starkatt @Thaminga it does leave a bit to be desired but I can understand it for gameplay reasons

@Felthry @Thaminga Yeah in Elite systems are Actual Size. You superluminal cruise faster when away from gravity wells but things like a distant binary can take ages to fly to.

Also there's the literal entire milky way galaxy to explore. hundreds of millions of systems.

@Felthry @Thaminga This is how far I traveled, after 100 hours of gameplay, a good chunk of which was spent on long-rage exploration.

@starkatt @Thaminga I mean, that's a _really long way_ to go in only 100 hours!

@Felthry @Thaminga That was with a max jump range of somewhere a bit under 50LY.