it feels like every smash game where there's a sizable competitive scene has one character that's just completely broken. melee has fox, brawl has meta knight, smash 4 has bayonetta--who's the equivalent for ultimate?

Not sure if there's one for 64 either

@Felthry In Melee, Fox being completely broken (or, players only playing Final Destination, actually) is a bit more meme than fact. Fox, Falco, Marth, Jigglypuff, and Peach have all historically performed extremely well.

It's true that Fox gets *used* the most among would-be competitive players the most, but that's actually kind of *because* of the meme. It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy; people keep saying competitive Melee is Fox Only, Final Destination, and people believe it going in.

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@connie Are Meta Knight and Bayonetta actually as broken as the meme says, though?

@Felthry absolutely! Smash Ultimate seems to be the most balanced the series has ever been by a long shot, though.

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