open source hot take 

I always find it strange that people this open source is any more open than closed source. Like... that code sucks. Reading the assembly is often way easier...?

open source hot take 

@Fuego ah yes, the kernel exploit dev hot take

open source hot take 

@typhlosion honestly it's no harder to learn x86 asm than C++ - when I teach non coders they get it way faster

open source hot take 

@Fuego that's less a good reflection on x86 asm and more a sobering realization about C++

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open source hot take 

@typhlosion hahaha it's a bit of both ;) for reals tho; if you can't read the asm, how you gonna debug it??

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@Fuego you mean, how are you gonna debug the c/c++/whatever program you just wrote? do you not have a version of gdb that lets you step through line by line??

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@typhlosion sure but that's almost useless for many complex data corruption bugs. Also double useless when you get crash dumps from customers from release builds.

open source hot take 

@typhlosion I used to get called over by the snort devs to debug their crashes like once a week when I worked at Sourcefire because they couldn't read their own compiled code

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