the accidental discovery of even more horrifying antisemitism that nobody ever told me about, with the accompanying bad mood.

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@zebratron2084 was there something recent? I can’t find any news articles more than portraying Francis as saintly (I feel my skepticism is understandable here).

@Leucrotta Hoo boy. It's pretty bad, but luckily it's not Francis, it's just that 1942 letter they found from Pius XII that pretty much confirms they absolutely fucking knew the Germans were committing genocide and absolutely fucking lying about not knowing. >_<

@Leucrotta (as for Francis, yeah, I could probably argue with him all day long but you know, i still mostly like the guy? and he seems like the kind of guy who might *let* you argue with him all day long and stay reasonably civil? we have some absolutely irreconcileable differences and he's said a few things to piss me off but as popes go, yeah, he seems like a soft option to me...)

@zebratron2084 Thanks! Historically the Pope is responsible or just great with exactly what's going on, and will ALWAYS be presented as a literal saint. (The Holocaust is a great example. Italians dumping other Italians onto trains right fucking next door.)

Consequently, here comes Francis, who might in fact actually BE the equivalent of making a genuinely well meaning aeronautical engineer head of Rockwell Collins, and it's real hard to take at face value.

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