birdsite; us pol; warm takes
Yeah, fuck it. Maybe I'll march right back again, but Twitter is over for now.
When my own "friends" are giving me shit for expressing qualms about *physically assaulting* people... ordinary fucking kids who may be just about to LEAVE the abusive community they've been seduced into... that's toxicity, in my book. That's not "woke," that's "gone psychotic from sleep deprivation."
And that attitude is here, too, but at least I have better tools for keeping it at bay.
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@zebratron2084 I've already seen there be basically no room to say anything against punching people, because Godwin's Law is fucked and over with. It's a thought-stopper. You can "win" anything by a single name, and a in-theory unassailable more position.
Pacifism absolutely disallowed.
i'll stop. You know all this. I can't even express it well or follow a debate about it. I'm just tired of this shit.
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@emanate It's like, I ask if just maybe our movement's going too far, and I get a "NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT, AND HOW DARE YOU ASK." Which sounds a hell of a lot to me like, "WE HAVE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND DECIDED WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT. DON'T HARSH OUR MORAL CLARITY BUZZ."
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@zebratron2084 Yeah, I haven't even seen that first part, I just have mostly seen the "okay to punch" without ever actually trying to figure out who /is/ one, because surely it's easy, right?
This could never be abused. Of course not.
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@emanate EXACTLY. "Gee, I can see absolutely no way that an abusive or sociopathic person could exploit this for their own ends whatsoever -- I mean, this is the human race we're talking about, they'd never subvert the concept of justice or morality that way..."
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@zebratron2084 "I mean, WE'RE not Nazis."
birdsite; us pol; warm takes
@emanate No, no, I get it and I think I'm with ya. The combination of "liberals are really centrists which are really Nazis" with "it's always OK to punch Nazis and we'll get REALLY INDIGNANT at any attempt to roll us back on this whatsoever" just... unsettles the fuck out of me. It's like EVERY attempt at moderation or expressing concern gets rejected as Creeping Fascism, and I'm getting real tired of it too. >_<