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Something tells me I'm gonna be spending a lot of time in the next two weeks looking for my old 20th Century Russia textbooks to explain why, in point of fact, communism is not some good shit. :|

Socialism is some good shit. At the VERY least, communism needs to be run through a good-quality filter that removes particles of Stalinist and Leninist contaminants.

I sentence all you young antifa whelps to eat in a Polish milkbar for the rest of eternity.

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@zebratron2084 Communism's got problems for sure. Good thing we have this republic democracy hybrid with no problems whatsoever!

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@zebratron2084 @mawr Or, you know, we could talk about all the non-Russian communist -- really more akin to anarchomutualist than classic Marxist -- implementations and remind people that Russia is not a role model, but a strong counterexample.

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@literorrery @mawr I mean, let's put it this way: if your definition of communism involves, like, Nestor Makhno or the communes at Christiania or something, there's no point in having this debate because we'll already agree. :) I'm talking about China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea here, none of which is exactly what I'd call a role model for "Gay Luxury Space Communism" or whatevs.

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@mawr @zebratron2084 will get you my list in a bit.

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