Harassment, some masto ideas
You know, for all the shit I've got, it's still not as much as what people do to Ginny
Imo we should really introduce admin only access to report federation, that would probably help her out a lot
I also think we need to add a window that deleted data sticks around and eventually gets deleted so we can track down abuse instead of letting them delete data and have zero metrics we can use to track em down
Harassment, some masto ideas
Anyway, it's really high time the masto devs invest in harassment tools again
It's been a long time. Too long
Harassment, some masto ideas
@vahnj Agreed, I've been disappointed that this hasn't been a bigger focus than it has been
Harassment, some masto ideas
@bea @dog @vahnj Also note that anti-abuse tools in the federated social web are a SocialCG topic of interest. If there's ideas / workflows to be persued or being explored it would be good to hear.
Last SocialCG's meeting was largely on the topic: https://www.w3.org/wiki/SocialCG/2017-10-11/minutes
Harassment, some masto ideas
@vahnj Treat user accounts like user accounts in SCM. Deleting the data doesn't actually delete the data, it just hides it from public view. It would still be viewable by any administrator.
Harassment, some masto ideas
@PaulFerence I mostly agree with this yes but there needs to be a mechanism for deleting posts after a time limit and visibility into how long that is in the instance details
Harassment, some masto ideas
@vahnj That should be doable, but why?
Harassment, some masto ideas
@PaulFerence it allows you to track down the signup habits of users who create posts, then delete them, which leaves no trace of what happened, both from the post level and from the account level
Harassment, some masto ideas
@PaulFerence I mean, track the habits of people who abuse the system as is
That's actually why registration is closed right now
Harassment, some masto ideas
@vahnj I may be misunderstanding on this. So, hidden but finally deleted after X amount of time, or unable to delete a post for X amount of time?
Harassment, some masto ideas
@vahnj Admin-only access to report federation sounds like a great idea to me. Every time inter-instance conflicts arise, there are always complaints about how it fills up the public timelines. And arguably, airing all that dirty laundry in public just escalates things.
I tried hard with admins.town, but I think some inter-admin UI is probably the best solution.
Harassment, some masto ideas
@nolan @vahnj
Every time this comes up I keep arguing for out of band admin communication. I mean, I think we're 'supposed' to use the admin email contacts but that just doesn't seem like how people are dealing with things. I seriously do think putting this sort of obvious purpose built interface into the default interface would help keep these situations more civil.
Also yes, report federation please.
Harassment, some masto ideas
I don't give a shit what you think of her, if you think she deserves the harassment she gets you're wrong