@Leucrotta the fuckin' shitheel coward pope? yeah.
@Leucrotta (as for Francis, yeah, I could probably argue with him all day long but you know, i still mostly like the guy? and he seems like the kind of guy who might *let* you argue with him all day long and stay reasonably civil? we have some absolutely irreconcileable differences and he's said a few things to piss me off but as popes go, yeah, he seems like a soft option to me...)
@zebratron2084 Thanks! Historically the Pope is responsible or just great with exactly what's going on, and will ALWAYS be presented as a literal saint. (The Holocaust is a great example. Italians dumping other Italians onto trains right fucking next door.)
Consequently, here comes Francis, who might in fact actually BE the equivalent of making a genuinely well meaning aeronautical engineer head of Rockwell Collins, and it's real hard to take at face value.