uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@kistaro Or it won't improve at all because anyone hired under this admin will be a climate change denier and otherwise anti science, and moving the HQ is just an excuse for a purge. that seems rather more likely to me.
It's not as stupid as moving the bio research lab (no, do not put crop and animal high BSL labs in farm country) but.
uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@kistaro The Trump admin is trying to destroy multiple departments and the USDA has been producing reports they don't like. It would be very in character for them to simply refuse to hire anyone and effectively kill the agencies.
Also losing 2/3 of your staff isn't going to be "a few months" recovery. Years, maybe worse than years.
uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@Doephin Hm. I’m used to organizations that can hire much more quickly than that. Projects that get shuffled to new offices here also regularly lose most of their staff and have to hire from scratch, then have to be picked back up again when the office eventually shuts down. I guess I underestimate the red tape involved.
uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@kistaro You're mostly IT right? Most research is different and that's before you get into the hiring bureaucracy and deliberate fuckery. I mean imagine your work said "We're moving to North Dakota ish. Maybe South Dakota. In two months. No we don't know exactly where yet, just pack up and move. Also you're all taking a 30% pay cut."
Think you'd be able to hire many people after that? Or would the newbies wonder if it'd happen again?
uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@Doephin @kistaro Tangential, buy I lived in the town where they moved the NBAF to. A lot of the reasoning was to put it I close proximity with both existing USDA research labs and the ag research apparatus of KSU/ISU/OSU/NU; all of which are within appx 5 hours by car (and the NBAF being on the campus of KSU) and are among the leading ag research universities in the country. If properly built and the BSL3/4 policies adhered to; the risk exposure should be pretty minimal. It’s not any different than the human-borne disease research in Atlanta or FoCo or similar.
uspol: unpopular opinions re: USDA move
@Doephin distressingly plausible. I guess I don’t know enough about the USDA’s hiring pipeline to know whether that’s the most likely outcome; hiring managers will suddenly have headcount and the most readily available people will be academics from the agricultural college programs in Kansas City, and I have great faith in petty tyrants regarding power: managers with headcount will seek people to order around, so there will be a lot of fast hiring. It’s hard to find educated scientists who are climate denialists, even in the Midwest, so I doubt they would be able to achieve that ideological goal, although they can screw over research programs for a few months while they’re discombobulated.